katy1717
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Not a full review, as others have already written about the 2 previous JY trips but just some points about things we have all been asking about and some of my impressions.

First of all, loved Burma.  So glad I went and wanted to go now before it became too touristy.

The hotels were all really very good standard, even excellent in some cases, I was prepared for much more basic as I know tourism is new but really they were terrific and all the staff we encountered were super helpful.  At the hotel in Yangon and the one for the add-on the staff were very well trained but its a bit work in progress for staff training at the others, but they tried very hard.

Our TM was Stephen Taylor who had done one of the tours earlier in the year, I think he said that we had 3 different hotels from that tour - they certainly changed from the original documentation.  Our hotels were Sedona Yangon hotel, Yandanarpon Dynasty in Mandalay, Shwee Yee Pwint Hotel in Bagan, Dream Mountain Resort in Kalaw, Inle Garden Hotel on Lake Inle and the Eskala Ngwe Saung for the add-on.  (I think I liked the hotel in Kalaw the best but then .....).

All hotels had in-room safes, kettles (and tea and coffee) and hairdryers.

All hotels had wifi.  However, it was only really a useful standard at the hotel in Yangon and at the add-on hotel.  All the other hotels did have wifi, but it was excruciatingly slow to the point of often being useless and the hotel in Bagan was particularly annoying as every 5 minutes or so you'd lose the connection.  (And I did try on all my devices, using safari, chrome, edge, explorer but often got nowhere.)  My mobile seemed to work everywhere, except in Bagan where I had no signal - don't know if others also had this.

I did do the trishaw ride in Mandalay, most of us did.  I'm glad I did it, but cant say it was a particular highlight.

We had a terrific local Burmese guide who was with us for the whole trip.  The first time he has worked for JY - he is also going to do the 28 November tour.  He's called Nyi Nyi Thun.

Money.  Take dollars.  Euros and sterling useless.  In fact a lot of the time the charges are quoted in dollars and you could probably use them for just about the whole trip.  Most of us changed some dollars at the arrival hall in Yangon airport.  I changed $100 - if you change large bills ($50 and $20) you get a better rate than if you change small bills.  Because I paid for stuff in dollars, towards the end of the trip I had to make an effort to pay in local currency to make sure I'd spent it all.  One very useful thing was the TM suggested we all put some dollars into a kitty and he would then use it to deal with all the tips to the various bus drivers, assistants, boatmen, etc - which got rid of the problem of having the right change to deal with all this (was also used for Nyi Nyi's tip.)

As so many of the meals are included you really don't need much, just something for the drinks which aren't included, but which are very reasonably priced.  Unless, of course, you are a big collector of souvenirs.  I did buy a few things, more than usual - am particularly happy with some lacquerware I bought, also some skirts.  But there are a few - what was I thinking of items as well ..............

My highlights were mostly the boat trips - and I HATE boats (and yes Bob, this predates Mexico or was it Guatemala?)  U Bein Bridge sunset boat trip - fabulous. All the boat trips on Inle Lake - wow.

One thing not on the JY programme that we did, and that I think should be included, was on the morning of Day 8.  We were in Kalaw and didn't leave for Inle Lake until lunchtime, so it was suggested that we could go to a cave to see some Buddhas.  I was in two minds about going, but so glad I did.  It was a five minute drive away from the hotel on the coach and we went into this cave, which was dripping with water and walked through the tunnels where there were 850 golden buddhas.  Extraordinary.

The add-on was pretty much a beach holiday, albeit a terrific beach.  But you had a 5 hour trip over awful roads to get there.  (I was car sick on the way back .........yes, TMI.)

Any further questions will try to answer.  If I think of anything else after I get over the jetlag will add on.

Katy

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Just need to add, when I said my highlights were the boat trips, these weren't the only highlights - there were so many highlights, too many to list. Just that the boat trips were particularly good.

Katy

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Hi Katy,

Thanks a million for this great review and I am so glad that you enjoyed the tour so much.  So if I brought around $300 or so, do you think that would be enough for the whole tour?  I'm not doing the add-on.  Here's hoping our TM will also bring us to the caves at Kalaw.  I'm so glad you enjoyed the boat trips, even if you didn't have any margaritas to hand this time!

All the best,

Bob

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'BGray' wrote:

Hi Katy,

Thanks a million for this great review and I am so glad that you enjoyed the tour so much.  So if I brought around $300 or so, do you think that would be enough for the whole tour?  I'm not doing the add-on.  Here's hoping our TM will also bring us to the caves at Kalaw.  I'm so glad you enjoyed the boat trips, even if you didn't have any margaritas to hand this time!

All the best,

Bob

Hi Bob, think $300 would probably cover it, depending on whether you purchase a lot of souvenirs and whether you drink cocktails or what.   I spent approx. $370 (which includes the $100 I changed at the airport and the money I gave the TM for the tips etc).  I tipped the TM using sterling so that's not covered.  Of the $370 I spent about $70 at the add-on (which was only B&B) and spent about $100 on "stuff".

Regards, Katy.

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Thank you so much for the review, and very useful tips. I've just paid  my balance for  February.  Getting  very excited now.
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Thanks for your guidance Katy, most helpful!

By the way were the money changers really that fussy about the condition of the dollar notes when you were exchanging them?  I'm just thinking of the comments that one or two others have passed...

All the best,

Bob

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'BGray' wrote:

Thanks for your guidance Katy, most helpful!

By the way were the money changers really that fussy about the condition of the dollar notes when you were exchanging them?  I'm just thinking of the comments that one or two others have passed...

All the best,

Bob

Hi Bob, all the notes I exchanged at the airport were new.  Some of the notes I paid with along the way weren't perfect, but v. good condition, nobody seemed bothered.  By contrast the local currency notes we got were pretty much all really ratty.  I didn't hear of anyone having problems but I think we had all heard you had to have new notes to exchange. 

Katy

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Hi Katy

So glad you enjoyed the trip and that it is still evolving from ours which was the very first.  Interesting that the hotels were changed from the ones we stayed at.  I also loved the hotel in Kalaw which was the Pine Hills Resort and would have loved to see the cave.  Lucky you.

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Thanks Katy - can I be a pain and ask you, Jonah, Hils or anyone else another question about the US dollar bills - I know they have to be new but one person said that they can't be folded in two or else the money changers won't accept them - if I put them in my wallet they will have a bit of a fold in them.  Would this be acceptable or should I put them completely flat in an envelope or something similar?

Cheers,

Bob

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'BGray' wrote:

Thanks Katy - can I be a pain and ask you, Jonah, Hils or anyone else another question about the US dollar bills - I know they have to be new but one person said that they can't be folded in two or else the money changers won't accept them - if I put them in my wallet they will have a bit of a fold in them.  Would this be acceptable or should I put them completely flat in an envelope or something similar?

Cheers,

Bob

Don't know the answer to this Bob, my notes were new and unfolded, kept in the flat packets I received them in at the bank.  I didn't hear of anyone having a problem changing their notes but, of course, I don't know the condition of the notes they exchanged. Wouldn't have thought it would matter but really don't know.  Katy

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I for one can't understand why someone would insist on pristine notes. After all, they are going to be used and eventually they will be folded. No one is going to be able to keep the notes unfolded throughout the notes' journey unless the first person keeps them all!

Regards

Jaya

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Thanks Katy, I think I'll keep $100 or so flat just in case!

Cheers,

Bob

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Hi Bob.  I would keep them flat in an envelope just in case.  When we arrived in Burma one of the first things our guide Naing gave us was a locally made little wallet to keep the dollars in to keep them flat which is a lovely gift/memento and has since been to Croatia with me and will also come to India next year.  That suggests to me that the locals are aware of the issue enough to try to guard against it.
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Hi Jonah,

That is really helpful, many thanks.  I will keep all my dollars flat then so, just in case - and hopefully we will have the same helpful guide!

All the best (for Kerala and beyond...)

Bob

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Katy,  can I ask one more question. Were credit cards accepted in the  hotels,  especially for the  the add-on.  Thanks again for all your advice.
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Thank you for your review.Really useful along with the previous ones.

Just paid my balance today for the February trip so on the countdown now.

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'SarahS' wrote:

Katy,  can I ask one more question. Were credit cards accepted in the  hotels,  especially for the  the add-on.  Thanks again for all your advice.

Hi Sarah, yes credit cards were fine.

Katy

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'katy1717' wrote:

'SarahS' wrote:

Katy,  can I ask one more question. Were credit cards accepted in the  hotels,  especially for the  the add-on.  Thanks again for all your advice.

Hi Sarah, yes credit cards were fine.

Katy

Thank you again. I'm starting to get excited. Just need to get my visa sorted, then start packing!

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'I katy1717' wrote:

Not a full review, as others have already written about the 2 previous JY trips but just some points about things we have all been asking about and some of my impressions.

First of all, loved Burma.  So glad I went and wanted to go now before it became too touristy.

The hotels were all really very good standard, even excellent in some cases, I was prepared for much more basic as I know tourism is new but really they were terrific and all the staff we encountered were super helpful.  At the hotel in Yangon and the one for the add-on the staff were very well trained but its a bit work in progress for staff training at the others, but they tried very hard.

Our TM was Stephen Taylor who had done one of the tours earlier in the year, I think he said that we had 3 different hotels from that tour - they certainly changed from the original documentation.  Our hotels were Sedona Yangon hotel, Yandanarpon Dynasty in Mandalay, Shwee Yee Pwint Hotel in Bagan, Dream Mountain Resort in Kalaw, Inle Garden Hotel on Lake Inle and the Eskala Ngwe Saung for the add-on.  (I think I liked the hotel in Kalaw the best but then .....).

All hotels had in-room safes, kettles (and tea and coffee) and hairdryers.

All hotels had wifi.  However, it was only really a useful standard at the hotel in Yangon and at the add-on hotel.  All the other hotels did have wifi, but it was excruciatingly slow to the point of often being useless and the hotel in Bagan was particularly annoying as every 5 minutes or so you'd lose the connection.  (And I did try on all my devices, using safari, chrome, edge, explorer but often got nowhere.)  My mobile seemed to work everywhere, except in Bagan where I had no signal - don't know if others also had this.

I did do the trishaw ride in Mandalay, most of us did.  I'm glad I did it, but cant say it was a particular highlight.

We had a terrific local Burmese guide who was with us for the whole trip.  The first time he has worked for JY - he is also going to do the 28 November tour.  He's called Nyi Nyi Thun.

Money.  Take dollars.  Euros and sterling useless.  In fact a lot of the time the charges are quoted in dollars and you could probably use them for just about the whole trip.  Most of us changed some dollars at the arrival hall in Yangon airport.  I changed $100 - if you change large bills ($50 and $20) you get a better rate than if you change small bills.  Because I paid for stuff in dollars, towards the end of the trip I had to make an effort to pay in local currency to make sure I'd spent it all.  One very useful thing was the TM suggested we all put some dollars into a kitty and he would then use it to deal with all the tips to the various bus drivers, assistants, boatmen, etc - which got rid of the problem of having the right change to deal with all this (was also used for Nyi Nyi's tip.)

As so many of the meals are included you really don't need much, just something for the drinks which aren't included, but which are very reasonably priced.  Unless, of course, you are a big collector of souvenirs.  I did buy a few things, more than usual - am particularly happy with some lacquerware I bought, also some skirts.  But there are a few - what was I thinking of items as well ..............

My highlights were mostly the boat trips - and I HATE boats (and yes Bob, this predates Mexico or was it Guatemala?)  U Bein Bridge sunset boat trip - fabulous. All the boat trips on Inle Lake - wow.

One thing not on the JY programme that we did, and that I think should be included, was on the morning of Day 8.  We were in Kalaw and didn't leave for Inle Lake until lunchtime, so it was suggested that we could go to a cave to see some Buddhas.  I was in two minds about going, but so glad I did.  It was a five minute drive away from the hotel on the coach and we went into this cave, which was dripping with water and walked through the tunnels where there were 850 golden buddhas.  Extraordinary.

The add-on was pretty much a beach holiday, albeit a terrific beach.  But you had a 5 hour trip over awful roads to get there.  (I was car sick on the way back .........yes, TMI.)

Any further questions will try to answer.  If I think of anything else after I get over the jetlag will add on.

Katy

Thanks Katy, brilliant summary, I go on 28th November and beyond excited. Jools

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Hi Katy

Is it necessary to take malaria meds ?My local travel nurse said it was unclear and that Mandalay was really the only place on the tour where mossies may be a problem.

Thanks

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