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Hi I'm starting this thread largely aimed at those folks who haven't done much travelling abroad (beyond Europe) and might be a bit apprehensive regarding keeping healthy and safe, so feel free to add your own tips. To get the ball rolling, here are a few random thoughts:

1. Do your preparation beforehand: google the climate of the country you're thinking of going to, see what the weather is likely to be like and plan accordingly. Stock up on plenty of sun cream, find out if you will need mosquito repellent (ordinary or with DEET for tropical climates) or vaccinations in plenty of time before you go. Most pharamcies only stock DEET products etc during the holiday season, so if you're planning to go abroad Oct - March, stock up in advance the previous summer before the shops run out. In tropical climates where mossies are common, put your sun cream on first and rub it well in. Wait for at least 15-20 minutes then apply the DEET. If you have DEET spray, be careful not to inhale it as it will probably take the lining off your lungs. DEET roll-on can be used instead, but it doesn't spread as easily and the little blighters are very good at finding skin that hasn't been DEET-ed!!

2. Currency: I know many UK banks/post offices can supply many foreign currencies, but for most of the long haul destinations, such as south-east Asia, south America and Africa it's best to bring US dollars, which are widely accepted and then change a little into foreign currency when you get to your destination. In most cases, hotels can change money or your tour manager will be able to advise you. In some countries, you can pay the whole way with dollars and you will even get your change in dollars (small change might be given in the local currency). In many countries outside Europe, Sterling is not widely accepted or welcomed although the Euro (surprisingly enough) is more widely accepted. Dollars are the way to go, however.

3. Care for your digestive system! Bring plenty of medication in case you get a stomach upset. This is very likely in Asia, especially in India but also countries such as Vietnam, Thailand, Uzbekistan etc. Immodium instants are very useful to carry in your hand luggage and are very effective. Indigestion remedies and anti-nausea pills are helpful too. Boots do a travel acidophilus pill called "Biobalance Travel" which you take once a day for a week before you go, twice a day while away (once a day if within Europe) and once a day for a week after you get back. After suffering in India, I took them for my next tour to Vietnam and was much, much better. Activated charcoal can be helpful to speed up the passing of toxins through your system if you do get a bad upset. Wash your hands thoroughly and bring anti-bacterial hand gel and use before eating and after handling the local money. For the first day or two, eat more lightly than usual and drink plenty of water throughout your holiday; it is so easy to become dehydrated without realising it. Any hotel used by JY and any restaurant they bring you to, it will be safe to eat fruit and veg and have drinks with ice. Elsewhere it would be safer to avoid them.

4. General health and safety issues: Most countries do not have the same legislation as we "enjoy" in Europe, so beware of uneven ground, broken steps, no hand rails etc. Beware of steps in your hotel rooms, especially into the bathroom etc. Also beware of slipping in the shower. I almost had a very, very nasty accident in a hotel in Buenos Aires, when I stepped on the bath mat in the shower and it went flying, despite having the appearance of being well secured to the bottom of the bath/shower. If I hadn't grabbed the hand rail, I would have cracked the back of my skull off the rim of the bath!

5. Most of the long haul tours have a hectic itinerary, so that you get great value for money and see the best of each destination. This means that unless you have boundless energy, you need to pace yourself and get a good night's sleep. Herbal remedies can be helpful in relaxing you in a strange environment so that you awake refreshed for the next day's sightseeing.

6. Don't be afraid to ask your fellow travellers for advice and if you're not well or worried about anything, tell your tour manager: that's what they're there for! They will also give you advice on where to eat when meals aren't included and local safety/security issues e.g. some areas where it mightn't be safe for tourists to go. Don't flash your wallet, passport or jewellry in public and be sensible!

Until a couple of years ago, I'd done very little travelling outside Europe and although I wanted to see the world, I was a little daunted by the prospect - don't be! A little preparation beforehand and a sensible attitude and you should have a brilliant time discovering this beautiful and fascinating planet of ours.

Happy travelling!

Bob

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What a good thread...

Think you have covered most things, for all holidays I always carry a supply of antibacterial hand cleansing gel, packets of wet wipes, and packets of tissues, a basic first aid kit with the usual plasters savlon headache pills etc, I once spent ages looking to buy plasters so lessons have been learnt.

I get eaten alive by mosseys even with covering myself with deet etc, so I always carry antihistamine tablets just in case they get infected.

Make sure you have holiday insurance, and I always photo copy my passport and insurance details leaving 1 set back home with someone and a copy somewhere else in my packing just in case.

If you are taking credit cards etc away let the company's know where your going, much easier than getting the card declined while away.

Cindy

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Thanks for that Bob some very useful information there to take on board
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Thanks for that Bob some very useful information to take on board
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Good subject Bob, you've covered it well.
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Also be aware that Deet products can strip the colour out of your sandals if you get it on the leather/fabric - when on a recent holiday to China, all us ladies suffered from drip marks of Deet on our shoes!!
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Thanks Bob

that great lots of information i am on my first trip so all that great

antia

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You've been very thorough in compiling this, Bob! Can I add two things: a. bring some earplugs (the small foam variety rather that large ear defenders) - they can muffle the sound when you are trying to get to sleep, both in your hotel room and on long-haul flights; and b. on long-haul flights an inflatable neck cushion can take away some of the aches of airline seats.

AnnF

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Thanks everyone for your kind comments - I've just thought of something else: in Asia it's probably a good idea to either bring a lot of tissues in your day bag or a toilet roll as some of the toilets you come across on rest stops can be a bit on the basic side. In Vietnam/Cambodia we managed (just about) to avoid squat toilets (well I did anyhow!!) but you might have to grin and bear it in some places (i.e. China, so I'm told!). Now isn't that a lovely thought to brighten your day!!

Cheers,

Bob

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Hi folks, in case you're wondering I've amended the title of this thread as I thought the topic of "health and safety" mightn't appeal to some users or might be a little misleading! Any other tips or info anyone can think of, please do share them with us!

All the best and a happy St Patrick's Day to all of you out there!

Bob

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Hi again, following on from a conversation with a friend I think it's also worth mentioning the need to wear flight socks on long haul flights. My doctor recommended that anyone over 40 should wear flight socks on any flight lasting longer than 4 hours, to avoid deep vein thrombosis. They are slightly uncomfortable to wear, but well worth it and your legs are much more rested after the flight than they would be otherwise. It has really surprised me on some of the long hauls I've done over the last couple of years that some of the older folks haven't worn them. And as for my friend who got a clot on the lung after his last holiday, which started out as a DVT - he's only in his early 40s! Worth thinking about...

All the best,

Bob

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Hi Bob

Thanks for all the information. Even though I have travelled quite a bit, it is nice to refresh your mind. I have never used DEET products before, but I guess if I was going to travel to a destination where mossies were a problem than I would have to use it, but not sure if I would be comfortable since reading that they can strip the colour from leather sandals/shoes!!

Regards

Jaya

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Bob

Isn't it weird how different people are given different information, I have a doctor friend who does NOT advise flight socks what is more important I have been told is to GET UP and move around on a regular basis on long haul flights which is what I do and to do the in flight exercises. It's the sitting down that gets to me on a long haul flight and having done NZ and also Oz they are the longest ones around, so I am one of the people you see wandering around backwards and forwards in the aisles...it really is up to people to figure what works for them but blood clots are a worry, I agree.

This doctor did say to put vasoline or similar into your nostrils lightly as this acts as a barrier for all the germs that are floating around in the aircraft.

Also when I am am doing a JY tour I take daily the very small dose aspirins as was advised to do this once by a doctor for long haul and coach based tours..

I have no idea if any of this works or if its all old wives tales..but I am still here for the time being..!!!

Cindy

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Hi Cindy and Jaya,

I wear the flight socks for all long flights now and I'm glad I do - especially if I'm stuck in a middle or window seat it's very difficult to get up regularly and the socks do keep my legs from aching. Good tips regarding the vaseline - also I heard somewhere that something like 70% of our immune system is in our noses - so if someone is sneezing or coughing around you, keep your mouth shut and breathe through your nose!

Jaya, I've never had any problems with DEET - use 50% not 100%, as it could well strip the surface off plastic etc. 50% is fine for the places visited on JY tours - I'd say you'd only need 100% if you were going into the deepest jungles etc. But definitely wash your hands after using it and don't inhale (or it might remove whatever immunity your nose provides!). I usually spray one part of me, rub it in, then move to a different part of the room and spray again, to avoid wheezing from the fumes. As I mentioned previously, you could try the roll on, but I suspect it's not so effective. And if you are in South Africa, get Tabard from a pharmacy there - it's a brilliant anti-mossie spray and you can spray your room with it as well.

All the best,

Bob

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Must admit I don't wear flight socks but like Cindy do get up often and move around, think it is important to exercise your legs.

Vasoline in the nostrils, that is a new one to me.

Mick

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Hi again Cindy, from what I've read you have to be careful taking aspirin, as even small doses in some people can cause internal bleeding. Nothing is ever straightforward is it?

All the best,

Bob

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Hi Bob

Thanks for information on DEET and also about Tabart as I am planning to go to South Africa and do the Zambia add on as well if not next year, then the year after. I would like to do Kerala if it is still on offer next year, if not then I will do South Africa. Still planning to do the Nile cruise early next year. Hopefully Sharm el Sheikh add on will still be on offer.

Jaya

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Hi Jaya, I do hope you do South Africa and Zambia, my favourite holiday ever! Seeing such an abundance of animals in their natural habitat was an experience I will never forget and the scenery is absolutely stunning. Kerala should be great too. I've done Egypt and loved it - a unique experience and you really get a feel for what it was like in ancient times. Hope you can fulfill all your dreams!

Cheers,

Bob

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Hi Bob

I am very positive that I am going to fulfil my dreams. I will DEFINITELY do South Africa and Zambia add on either next year or the year after. My list is growing day by day!

Jaya

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Good for you Jaya, I know you will have a wonderful time on this tour. The food in both S Africa and Zambia was brilliant, no tummy troubles at all. Mosquitoes no problem in SA and a little persistent in Zambia, but cover yourself with DEET and you'll be grand! I won't even mention the amazing wildlife, as I'll only get all misty eyed!!

All the best,

Bob