Thanks Olly, I will start a new thread entitled "China Petition" - in the same spirit as the Route 66 one earlier this year. However, could you do me a favour and if there is any likelihood that it would be added next year to let me know ASAP, as if there isn't I might book the Travelsphere Discover China trip for Sept 2012 instead. Otherwise, if there is a real chance it might go ahead in 2013, I would book Thailand or Vietnam with JY instead for Sept 2012. Hope you can follow all that, many thanks!